Bratayley : part 18 The Divorce Diary

[lmmomSD]

I hadn't heard of Asher's girlfriend, so I was googling stuff. There was an online article about Annie and Asher from when they were dating, and it was titled "True Love: the Complete Timeline of Asher and Annie's Relationship".
So the adults making money off of Annie's relationships are culpable in creating the toxic surroundings. True love? She was 14 when they got together, right? Just 14 plus a couple of months.

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[TheLoneStranger]

Yup, newly 14 when they arranged the pre-Valentines photoshoot for the Valentines Day announcement. The whole thing reeks of adult involvement and it creeps me out.

[Lisatheacrobat]

I am just curious if there was no interest there, how did they last almost a year and a half?

[lmmomSD]

I am just curious if there was no interest there, how did they last almost a year and a half?

Money. All those magazines paid for articles and photoshoots.
I think they probably got along ok. They did seem to enjoy each other's company. But "true love"? I think Asher was more pragmatic. Having Annie as his girlfriend got attention, especially when she was in his music videos.
But all the times we saw him kiss her, I never saw him kiss her on the lips. And he never took her to any red carpet events. At the one Teen Vogue party, they didn't go together. We commented here about the way he spoke about her in interviews: "she gets me" "she makes me laugh" "she's so sweet/funny/understanding". Generic praise.

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[Georgie]

Did anyone watch Annie’s latest IGTV “my mom exposes me”?

What I find interesting is that it seems neither of the parents can post with the girls and neither of the girls seem to really post with the parents EXCEPT Annie has Katie in her igtvs, and heavily in this latest one. I wonder what the rules around it all are?

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Did anyone watch Annie’s latest IGTV “my mom exposes me”?

What I find interesting is that it seems neither of the parents can post with the girls and neither of the girls seem to really post with the parents EXCEPT Annie has Katie in her igtvs, and heavily in this latest one. I wonder what the rules around it all are?

I didn't get a chance to watch it. I noticed in a Jayden vlog though, that Annie/Jules brings Katie with her, and Jayden films Katie now and then (like the second piercing video) and Annie/Jules was extremely snotty to Katie in it. I am kinda curious to know what their rules in their divorce are with the girls and such. Also, I know sometimes it's a glitch, so am I wrong that Annie/Jules doesn't follow Billy on IG? Hayley does but, I didn't see Annie/Jules as a follower? And I love how Billy's girlfriend follows the girls and they don't follow him, and how Billy didn't post anything for either girls Birthday... I wonder if that's a rule, that he can't post about them at all or something? Katie posted a Happy Birthday post for them. Strange.

On a side note... does anyone else think Jayden is like a young brunette version of Kelly Preston? I think she looks and even sounds like her at times.

[Lisatheacrobat]

Just from a quick search, Annie does follow Billy. She probably has to to not instigate family drama. While neither parent posted for the girls birthday’s and i didn’t see them share anything for his birthday, didn’t he share something about Caleb on the anniversary? And Katie did too as well? So they can talk about the dead child but not celebrate the living? Their whole gimmick was celebrate life. But i feel As if they are doing anything but celebrating. There must be some sort of gag order on speaking about them. But why? What is going on that you can’t even share a birthday post on Instagram for them but you will for Caleb? That doesn’t make sense. What does that have any value in the divorce? Like why would they restrict that?

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Haha I was looking at 2019's birthday posts from Katie doh! She's just posted so little, I didn't pay attention to the year/week.. but, Billy posts all the time, so I had to scroll back a lot. And for some reason, it still shows she's not following Billy for me. I hate that glitch, IG needs to fix it!

Maybe the judge is worried they will try and outshine the other on social media, and cause more shame to the girls or something? I can't think of any other reason a judge would think of to tell them not to. And, you're totally right about them wanting to celebrate life and doing anything but. The girls look miserable in any picture they themselves take... if someone else takes it or films it they look "ready to go" and "happy" and not posting for your daughters lives, like you have for your son who isn't here.. that's sad.

[Ex0tic]

Too late to edit, but also...

- Jules/Jayde still refusing to deny an intimate relationship....is this just a tool to keep fans hooked because their is nothing else interesting about her?

- Hayley said that she FaceTimes friends 10 hours a night. It seems pretty clear that they are completely on their own with no parenting at this point. Feeds into the Katie depression/substance abuse theory.

- I know she is 16 now, but Nick can't approve of these posts right!? I mean, if you post a picture that looks like a still from a cheap porno where you are waiting in the storage room to be mounted from behind....you have to know that a fan will edit Hayden in, mounting you from behind, right?

First of all, I was NOT ready for that last bullet. I just Spit out my coffee, thanks. Haha! But for real. Her model pics are really weird these days. Every picture is her just pushing the limits of seduction. Every photo she has her mouth gaping open and some dead inside look in her eyes. She can’t just post happy photo’s with friends and just being a normal teenager. Every thing she posts has to be some Vogue style modeling post that yes... looks very questionable. I kinda hate it. She looks sooo weird nowadays. The blonde hair is gross on her. The outfit choices she makes. The poses. The gaping open mouth. The attempt at being sexy. Idk. It creeps me out. How do people aspire to be like her? She seems miserable. I know I keep Comparing her to Kenley Pope and Ryan Cummings. But i think that at least they still portray a happy childhood, with a mix of grown up. Their pictures are always happy and smiling and they look happy. Probably cause they are. It’s sad to see that the only thing Annie seems to be comfortable posting is her looking like she wants to be mounted from behind in the janitors closet...

And wait. What substance abuse rumor? I very Much believe Katie is depressed. She had fame, fortune, family. Living it up in SoCal with the perfect weather 24/7/365 and Postmates 2x’s a day. Having a mansion with the perfect view to being in divorce court losing it all and having to give up the lavish life for a ... gasp... average sized suburban hone in an overly populated LA neighborhood. And have to live with the peasants *gag* i would Be depressed too if i went From the house they had to something half the size with no high end design and detailing and a pool overlooking the valley and fighting with my ex for money and my kids. Gee, it almost makes you think if they hadn’t have cashed their kids in for even more money and they just let the girls be normal, they could have had a better life than what they have now. I’m sure even the girls are screwed up at this point. As a mother, the choices i made For my kids would eat me alive if i knew It screwed them up like this. This whole family is screwed up and it’s really starting to show in weird ways how they are all just miserable with the lives they live now.

Wait do we know what their new house looks like/ their address? I’m really curious ab whether they downsized or not!!

[Georgie]

You can see Annie’s new room in one of Jayden’s recent vlogs, and you can see the kitchen in Annie’s last two IGTVs, but I don’t know more than that.

I wonder if maybe it is their “brand” that is tied up with the divorce and that “brand content” includes their living children? Because remember they also had to change their Instagram handles from Dadtayley and bratayley to justbillyleblanc and katieleblanc. At the time it seemed shady from Billy but maybe he was just following the rules and trying to create some source of his own income while the family stuff was being sorted out. this is all speculation but I would really love to know what’s going on in this divorce.

[bratguru12]

Seems like Annie might have started a corset trend among teens.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Seems like Annie might have started a corset trend among teens.

She copied Jayden though... Jayden has been wearing them for awhile. I don't think Annie has anything of her own style tbh.. she copies everyone she's "friends" with.

[agsl_]

So I’m not into comparing kids, but Whitney Bjerken is everything Annie wishes/ thinks she is. She has a beautiful voice, she can play 3 instruments, she’s an incredible athlete and she has a happy family.

[TheLoneStranger]

So I’m not into comparing kids, but Whitney Bjerken is everything Annie wishes/ thinks she is. She has a beautiful voice, she can play 3 instruments, she’s an incredible athlete and she has a happy family.

You forgot that their family also successfully got the kid interested in acting straight to the big screen roles and primetime network shows. No years of internet skits that led to a kiddie show for him.

It is funny, with all the discussion of family vloggers exploiting kids, this family didn't even come to my mind. Do you guys think the Bjerken kids are being exploited like the LeBlancs?

[agsl_]

I don’t think they’re getting exploited. They seem genuinely happy and like they enjoy what they’re doing.

[Lisatheacrobat]

If you don’t think having your life plastered on the internet isn’t being exploited, you might wanna brush up on the definition of that word. The thing that has always separated Annie and Whitney whether it’s music or gymnastics or whatever, it’s their work ethic. Whitney has a successful YouTube channel without having her entire life being filmed. No one handed her anything. Her parents didn’t push them to do music or acting. It doesn’t seem anyways. She still seems focused on gymnastics with maybe her eye on college now? It may not be in her future for an Olympic team anymore but she probably has a chance at college. They aren’t really pushing her to be on the cover of Popstar magazine or pair her off with some other LA hopeful to hopefully get some traction in the industry. Annie’s had everything handed to her (her words). Whether it was her dad buying a start up in Brat TV with the stipulation that Annie gets the lead roles, or bullying RYH bts to make sure Annie closes out stage shows and has the longest stage time. They bought her studio time and probably paid for most songwriting sessions. They slapped her name anywhere they could to make an extra buck. Meanwhile, Annie relished in the money, buying all the latest fashion trends, designing her room strictly from Urban Outfitters. Shopping every week. But she never put the effort into practicing her music. She can barely strum a guitar 2 years later. She still can’t hold a note and relies on auto tune as a safety net. Her acting skills while improved, are still stale and molded to fit the Nickelodeon aesthetic. Seems like she doesn’t work for anything and it’s been that way even before she quit gymnastics. She was able to squeeze by and even win several meets and events until level 9. That was when her scores started tanking. She was missing practice a lot to go home and “catch up on school” which usually meant go out to lunch, come home and waste time while Katie filmed her begging her to get to work, then usually a Saturday spent doing that weeks worth of school that she was supposed to do by missing so much gym. The fact that she doesn’t even keep up with her school says a lot about her work ethic. And a lot of it is due to her parents not putting down their foot or doing it all for her.

So while i don’t want to discredit Whitney for where she’s come, but her parents really seem to keep her responsible. She clearly knows work ethic and it shows even more so than it ever did with Annie. Annie liked the social life, the games, the flexibility of gymscool. But there was never really anyone around to teach her the benefit of a good work ethic and because everyone did it for her, she’s used to getting it all without lifting a finger for it. And who knows, maybe Whitney will go off and do music if gymnastics doesn’t work out for her. But Annie’s spotlight is fading fast and if she doesn’t learn some work ethic from Jayden, she’s going to find that she was left in the dark.

[zyxwww]

Is it me who's mistaken or are Hayley and the boy she's doing the live with, holding lighters in their mouth/hands at the start? Why do they have lighters... very odd, Hayley better not be juuling or anything crazy like that, she's what, 12? Also does anyone know who the boy is?

[cindigg]

Is it me who's mistaken or are Hayley and the boy she's doing the live with, holding lighters in their mouth/hands at the start? Why do they have lighters... very odd, Hayley better not be juuling or anything crazy like that, she's what, 12? Also does anyone know who the boy is?

That boy is Santi Carrera, I believe she's with him on the chicken girls set (??) I don't really follow her like I follow Jules but I know they're kind of close and she goes live with him a lot. I don't know why she has a lighter? Maybe she was lighting incense in her room? I only stay for a few minutes when I come on her lives because she tends to talk about some stupid sh!t like zodiacs, astology, does she even know what she's talking about? Or is she just copying trends and following along with whatever Jayden and Jules are doing? After I saw her playing with the lighter, I clicked off the live. She shouldn't be playing with those, but whatever. I'm sure Katie doesn't know and she's probably checked out. Maybe she took the lighter from Jules when she was getting high in her stupid "trip room". whatever.

[TheLoneStranger]

I was burning incense at 12. It doesn't seem that crazy to me. Although I thought Gen Z was all about scented candles now?

[Lisatheacrobat]

Is it me who's mistaken or are Hayley and the boy she's doing the live with, holding lighters in their mouth/hands at the start? Why do they have lighters... very odd, Hayley better not be juuling or anything crazy like that, she's what, 12? Also does anyone know who the boy is?

There’s a trend on tiktok where you take a lighter and put it in your mouth and then you grab it and switch to something “sexy” and you light the lighter and act all sexy and then blow it out. Kenzie did it. So I’m sure Hayley probably is trying to do it too. As for having a lighter. I’m sure she has candles in her room by now. Lol,