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TellTheTruth_Jessiii wrote: Not sure if any of you have been on Lipstick Alley? In the thread about ‘the girls room’, someone mentioned that Olivia O’Brien was loosely dating Logan Paul in the lead up to his second fight. He then hooked up with Jocelyn Chew a few times. Olivia found out and wrote a song about it (titled Josslyn). She states in an interview regarding the song, that the guy she wrote the song about, told her they were exclusive so it obviously pissed her off when he cheated.

Weirdly enough I had my suspicions that Logan and Jocelyn hooked up so this is no surprise to me. Im surprised that he was with Olivia though. Didn’t see that coming.
I briefly looked into this too and though Olivia was very open about her inspiration, I’m sure I saw a later comment (at least alluded to) that she had been slightly misinformed about Jocelyn? Maybe it’s the part where she accuses Logan of cancelling on her to gets blow job from Jocelyn...:

It’s a fun song, I enjoy it. I’m going through a bad break up so am enjoying playing that loudly alongside similar stuff like ‘never ever getting back together’ and feeling marginally better.:.yeah screw the patriarchy and that...

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horatio wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:51 am
TellTheTruth_Jessiii wrote: Not sure if any of you have been on Lipstick Alley? In the thread about ‘the girls room’, someone mentioned that Olivia O’Brien was loosely dating Logan Paul in the lead up to his second fight. He then hooked up with Jocelyn Chew a few times. Olivia found out and wrote a song about it (titled Josslyn). She states in an interview regarding the song, that the guy she wrote the song about, told her they were exclusive so it obviously pissed her off when he cheated.

Weirdly enough I had my suspicions that Logan and Jocelyn hooked up so this is no surprise to me. Im surprised that he was with Olivia though. Didn’t see that coming.
I briefly looked into this too and though Olivia was very open about her inspiration, I’m sure I saw a later comment (at least alluded to) that she had been slightly misinformed about Jocelyn? Maybe it’s the part where she accuses Logan of cancelling on her to gets blow job from Jocelyn...:

It’s a fun song, I enjoy it. I’m going through a bad break up so am enjoying playing that loudly alongside similar stuff like ‘never ever getting back together’ and feeling marginally better.:.yeah screw the patriarchy and that...
Sorry to hear about your bad breakup. You will be fine though, so don’t worry.

Yeah she said when she heard about it, she cut off the guy (Logan) and didn’t speak to him for about a month and then when she spoke to him, she realised that she didn’t have the full story. I just saw this interview now. She also talks about how Logan badly treats women (assuming this guy is Logan).

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horatio wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:32 am
I think mike deserves a bit more credit. He’s definitely more intelligent, interesting and better informed than most la influencers, or anyone Jake hangs around with And which so easily could at least be partly Logan’s scene too but thankfully isn’t.
100% agreed. And had Mike been on Logan's team in 2017, something tells me he would have probably tried to stop the Japan vlog. He seems to have a good grasp on what's morally acceptable or not and not afraid to say it to Logan. As much as people love to give him shit for being a yes man, he really isn't.

I also loved the way he lectured Logan early on about not messing around with girls' feelings, saying he may be depraved, but he doesn't fuck with people's hearts. Remember that on the podcast? They were talking about Corinna, and why he advised Logan to end it if he wasn't going to be serious with her, because she didn't deserve to be led on. That was really mature of Mike, and shows that he's not a bad person.
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Now I’m not saying Logan’s friends are down to mike, of course not. But before him his ‘team’ did come across more bland, the George jankos and that blonde guy... you know ?
George and Mark grew on me a lot, actually. I know what you're saying, they were definitely more yes men and less responsible than Mike, but I wish they hung out more. I enjoyed George in the recent vlogs and I don't know what happened to that Mark guy, seems that there was a falling out of sorts between him and George, they used to live together. But Mark has a decent podcast, checked out a couple of episodes, he has a lot of potential, and I think he's a pretty gifted editor/camera man.
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But most LA influencers wouldn’t even be in that ballpark. He does bring something.
Yup. Most LA influencers are 15 years younger than Mike, too. And I know age doesn't always equal wisdom, but having been around the block for a few years before you get famous or rich is way healthier than getting millions of dollars and attention as a teenager. Look what happened to both Logan and Jake, and 90% of other influencers.

When you get this fame in your 30s, no matter what, you're probably more equipped to deal with it. Casey Neistat is also a good example of this, as are many other more serious older YouTubers who have millions of followers too, yet never have too much drama around them.

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I don't think George and Mark were necessarily more, 'yes men,' but more so just regular friends in their early 20s. I feel like Mark if anything was the person that would actually call Logan out in the early days. He didn't start getting the yes men until Andy came along and coincidentally he was the one laughing right along side Logan in the infamous Japan vlog. George, Mark, and Logan are still friends and still appear in each other's content but it is the tale as old as time about friends growing apart. I've never had an issue with Mike, he is unapologetically himself and not ashamed of where he's been or done which is personally think is the best type of person, people just aren't used to his type of personality.

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berryfrezh wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:07 pm
I don't think George and Mark were necessarily more, 'yes men,' but more so just regular friends in their early 20s. I feel like Mark if anything was the person that would actually call Logan out in the early days. He didn't start getting the yes men until Andy came along and coincidentally he was the one laughing right along side Logan in the infamous Japan vlog. George, Mark, and Logan are still friends and still appear in each other's content but it is the tale as old as time about friends growing apart. I've never had an issue with Mike, he is unapologetically himself and not ashamed of where he's been or done which is personally think is the best type of person, people just aren't used to his type of personality.
mark was in the japanese vlog? or andy?

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darcyking wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:43 pm
berryfrezh wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:07 pm
I don't think George and Mark were necessarily more, 'yes men,' but more so just regular friends in their early 20s. I feel like Mark if anything was the person that would actually call Logan out in the early days. He didn't start getting the yes men until Andy came along and coincidentally he was the one laughing right along side Logan in the infamous Japan vlog. George, Mark, and Logan are still friends and still appear in each other's content but it is the tale as old as time about friends growing apart. I've never had an issue with Mike, he is unapologetically himself and not ashamed of where he's been or done which is personally think is the best type of person, people just aren't used to his type of personality.
mark was in the japanese vlog? or andy?
Andy.

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berryfrezh wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:07 pm
I don't think George and Mark were necessarily more, 'yes men,' but more so just regular friends in their early 20s.
Yeah, you're right, calling them yes men was wrong, they weren't up Logan's ass all the time, but they weren't "the father figure" either, the way Mike tries to be. I genuinely think that had he been in that forest with him, he would have predicted the potential backlash and probably would have stopped things on moral grounds alone. But it's hard to say now.

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I actually think that Mike and Lana could be a good match if they try properly. They both seem to have suffered severe trauma and can relate in some ways to each other if they open up. And I don't think that Lana is kidding when she says she wants a baby so I wouldn't be surprised if she was soon pregnant, I hope Mike is ready for that.

The one thing that seems to be a problem in the relationship is Mike not wanting her to continue porn unless it's onlyfans with him doing anything a male would have to do, but she seems to want to continue working in the industry. I totally get that he doesn't want her sleeping with other men of course. I just find it ironic that in exchange for her shooting something with a guy about a sex toy, he wants to have a threesome with another woman... If Lana can't have any contact with men even for work then why should he be able to sleep with a woman for pure pleasure as a reward... I wish Lana could see it this way because it seems very unfair.

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Anyone watch Logan’s most recent vlog titled “I made my assistant cry (again)”? They took Dani’s old Jeep to Logan’s ranch and it appears as though Logan and Josie are now a thing again as she’s in the vlog. She’s also following Logan on insta again.

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The guy from Logan's very first vlog the Burning Man was in his new video at the ranch. Not sure why but I'm kind of surprised they're still friends.

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mrmilo wrote:
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Anyone watch Logan’s most recent vlog titled “I made my assistant cry (again)”? They took Dani’s old Jeep to Logan’s ranch and it appears as though Logan and Josie are now a thing again as she’s in the vlog. She’s also following Logan on insta again.
I noticed that too. I assume he was referring to Josie in his latest podcast then:

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TellTheTruth_Jessiii wrote:
mrmilo wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 11:43 am
Anyone watch Logan’s most recent vlog titled “I made my assistant cry (again)”? They took Dani’s old Jeep to Logan’s ranch and it appears as though Logan and Josie are now a thing again as she’s in the vlog. She’s also following Logan on insta again.
I noticed that too. I assume he was referring to Josie in his latest podcast then:
She was also clearly in Mike’a recent episode of The Night Shift, and there was some definite PDA. Guess they’re unghosting each other? Image

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mike is ok, on the podcast he does enough bg research to carry the conversation but his relationship w lana i dunno, he got fame through logan and wanted to live out a fantasy, its like whats the ultimate gf if i have money oh yea a pornstar which not to say isnt all about sex but yea majority of the reason hes dating her is bc of the sex. lana is 23 i think she’ll move on.

also can i just say his addiction was to oxycontin. its such a high middle class thing. a lot of ppl are prescribed that and similar, ive tried it for recreational use in college, hydrocodone is another one, when you get ur wisdom teeth out that's whats prescribed. ppl shoot heroin on the streets that is a whole diff ball game, i get it, its his story falling into pharmaceuticals after surgery, its still rough, any addiction is. but theres a lot of ppl worse off, when he kept saying heroin i honestly thought he was shooting it.

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A little bit confused by Logan and Josie.


Both gave pretty serious explanations way they broke up last time.

According to sources close to Canseco, the model felt that her YouTube beau “wasn’t the right man for her” and even said that she felt he was using her for her fame after ghosting his texts and calls.


And Logan :

He explained that Canseco had wanted more from their relationship than he was willing to give, calling himself “selfish” and stating that he wants to make “himself happy first.”

“I was like, ‘I don’t know if I can give more right now,’” he clarified. “‘This is the best I got.’ ...I wasn’t, in this particular scenario, ready to give myself in that way. She left my house that night… we haven’t texted or spoken since.”

Thus, it doesn’t look like the ghosting was one-way: instead, it was a mutual parting, with the content creator claiming that the two just weren’t right for each other.







My theory is that Logan is smelling Jake breathing in his neck and Jakes numbers inching higher with Julia by his side. We will will found out if he uses Josie more and more for content as he started with Chloe before they broke up.

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This video was in my recommended. Logan said that he and Josie are serious lol but yet he mentioned in the same interview that she doesn’t ‘check all of the boxes’ and previously stated that they are not compatible.

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Jake is so unoriginal. His videos are now almost carbon copies of Logan's. The same type of music and intro and everything. And he even got one of his guys a date with Riley Reid and is trying to clickbait that they're a thing. I mean... I used to respect Jake a few years ago for growing out of Logan's shadow on Vine and doing his own thing, being successful in his own right. Now he's back to copying Logan again.

And I know, I know, Logan's technically imitating Dobrik. But Logan took Dobrik's short video style and made it his own, that's it. The rest is still pretty much the same type of stuff he used to do in older videos. Jake even stole the whole quick logo with blurry background and short piece of music thing Logan's editor does. Pathetic.

Also, Logan's videos work because he has natural chemistry with the people in his videos. Mike, especially. But almost everyone else that ever appeared more in the vlog becomes sort of a character around Logan. Even his dad is beginning to be more likeable in his new videos. With Jake, everything is awkward and cringe-inducing and forced, he seems to have a bunch of yesmen and butt-lickers around him that never have anything interesting or funny to say, they're just human props. The whole vibe in that house is weird and creepy.

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Dobrica wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 12:00 pm
Jake is so unoriginal. His videos are now almost carbon copies of Logan's. The same type of music and intro and everything. And he even got one of his guys a date with Riley Reid and is trying to clickbait that they're a thing. I mean... I used to respect Jake a few years ago for growing out of Logan's shadow on Vine and doing his own thing, being successful in his own right. Now he's back to copying Logan again.

And I know, I know, Logan's technically imitating Dobrik. But Logan took Dobrik's short video style and made it his own, that's it. The rest is still pretty much the same type of stuff he used to do in older videos. Jake even stole the whole quick logo with blurry background and short piece of music thing Logan's editor does. Pathetic.

Also, Logan's videos work because he has natural chemistry with the people in his videos. Mike, especially. But almost everyone else that ever appeared more in the vlog becomes sort of a character around Logan. Even his dad is beginning to be more likeable in his new videos. With Jake, everything is awkward and cringe-inducing and forced, he seems to have a bunch of yesmen and butt-lickers around him that never have anything interesting or funny to say, they're just human props. The whole vibe in that house is weird and creepy.


1) Jake did date videos long long before Logan check his 2017 content.


2) Logan admitted on his podcast that his old content and career were over and he was gonna copy David dobrik whole style. It does not get any more copying David than making an I gave my assistant a car video, :D


3) Logan brings Lana back in the thumbnail and video as soon as he gets lower views as his 2 videos before he new lana video did. As does Jake with Riley should be mentioned.


4) Both Jake and Logan have always jumped on what's trending right now. Logan was pretty fast with riding the jerika thing when that was popping with jake in 2017 so they always jump on each other's thing.






Not sure way both of them jumped on the David trend as i am pretty sure they would get the same or even more views on the old content.

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It's not the same thing. Logan took Dobrik's 4 minute quick-paced format, sure, but the content itself is not really that similar to David except the car thing and some of the titles. 9 times out of 10, he's doing the same ol' Logan vlogs, they're just shorter and quirkier.

Jake took Logan's whole thing and copied it 100%, even as far as copying the intro. I've said this already.

I know neither of them are the epitome of originality, but Logan took David's format and made it his own. Jake took Logan's format and just copied it. Big difference.

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Dobrica wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:17 pm
It's not the same thing. Logan took Dobrik's 4 minute quick-paced format, sure, but the content itself is not really that similar to David except the car thing and some of the titles. 9 times out of 10, he's doing the same ol' Logan vlogs, they're just shorter and quirkier.

Jake took Logan's whole thing and copied it 100%, even as far as copying the intro. I've said this already.

I know neither of them are the epitome of originality, but Logan took David's format and made it his own. Jake took Logan's format and just copied it. Big difference.


It's worse for Logan.

He copied Davids's thumbnails and content, give an assistant a car, The thumbnails inside the car, surprising my friend with an actor/celebrity.


Logan realized his content after the japan thing did not make him liked and he is obsessed with getting liked. So he switched to what made David liked by the public.

It's cheap and fake

It shows how far Logan is willing to go to get liked at any cost.

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Man, I hate being in a position where I have to defend Logan, I'm not even a fan (my avatar is sarcastic). But...
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Wed May 13, 2020 2:11 am
He copied Davids's thumbnails and content, give an assistant a car, The thumbnails inside the car, surprising my friend with an actor/celebrity.
That's just not true. Look at most of his thumbnails right now, none of them are alike. Dobrik puts the same 3 reactions of his in every single thumbnail, Logan did it a few times, even mocked it in a video, but he doesn't do it all the time. Go to his channel right now and check it out.

90% of the shenanigans in his vlog right now is pretty much the same type of stuff he used to do before. It's now in a shorter, faster-paced format. That's the main thing he stole from David, the short/fast pace format. And he has acknowledged this and made fun of himself for it many times.
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Logan realized his content after the japan thing did not make him liked and he is obsessed with getting liked. So he switched to what made David liked by the public.
Well, duh, of course he did. He's trying to be popular again. It's his career. What was he supposed to do, crawl under a rock and die? Yes, he's trying to redeem himself, and this year he admitted to making Dobrik-like short vlogs. Of course he wants them to be liked. What creator doesn't? That is a nonsense argument.
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It's cheap and fake
What are you talking about? Logan has been messing around with his friends and doing dumb stunts since the Vine days. He's doing the same exact thing he's been doing since before Dobrik even started his vlog. It's not like he was a tech reviewer and has now started doing Dobrik-like vlogs overnight. He took his existing vlog and his typical shenanigans and just made them shorter and faster-paced. He admitted he got that from Dobrik. But the rest of the content is pretty much the same.

Look at his videos from 2017, pre-Japan. Messing around in his apartment with his assistant, with Evan, with his bird and dog. The same thing he is doing now, he was just way more annoying and had a much smaller space. I know he's never been the most original guy ever, but come on, edit any of those vlogs to be 3-4 minutes instead of over 10 and they'd be almost the same as they are now. Just with more obnoxiousness from him.

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